The name "HYDE" is derived from the hide, a measure of land for taxation purposes, taken to be that area of land necessary to support a peasant family. In later times it was taken to be equivalent to 120 acres .
One of the paintings there, from a private collection, is of the old Bricklayers Arms on Reynold Street in Hyde.
As you may be able to make out from the name-tag on the bottom left, however, it's shown as being in Ashton. The young lady curator told me that a couple of people had already pointed out the error, so it may well by now have been corrected.
Here is an unusual item that is for sale on ebay at present. It's a mural which I can only assume was hung in Greenfield Street Secondary School. It's a bit pricey for me but a one-off nontheless.
I have included the link at the bottom if anyone wants to look at it.
Wasn't DJ Robinson one of the teachers at Greenfield Street?
THIS IS A 8FT X 4FT OIL ON BOARD MURAL DEPICTING GREENFIELD ST SCHOOL, HYDE CHESHIRE C1965/70 BASED ON THE FOOTBALL AND THE LOCO !IT DEPICTS THE SCHOOL, THE LOCALS OF HYDE AND THE LOCAL ARCHITECTURE - BEEN
IN THE CELLAR OF A LOCAL VICTORIAN VILLA FOR 20 YRS OR SO .ALL
QUESTIONS ANSWERED HONESTLY AND TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NEEDS A BIT
OF TLC TO SAY THE LEAST BUT A HUGE PIECE OF LOCAL HISTORY NONTHELESS !!!!!!!!!ARTISTS D.J ROBINSON, A BRAITHWAITE AND ANOTHER.
We just had to post this great local story from the war years in Newton, sent to us by Jacqueline and Colin Ridgway!!
"Reading Roger V Chapman’s interesting memories of his boyhood in Hyde
during WW2 reminded us of an aftermath of a Bombing Raid in Newton.
The large ICI works in Talbot Road which produced leathercloth known as “Rexine”
in peacetime, was switched to Munitions during WW2. As a result it
became a target for the Luftwaffe, and Bombers regularly flew over Hyde on
raids. They would locate the Reservoir near the Werneth Pub in Gee
Cross then aim for the Reservoir at Godley which put them on the Flight Path to
the ICI Works.
The factory walls were heavily camouflaged as was the roof and must have
been difficult for the German aircrews to spot from the air, although several
“drops” of incendary bombs had fallen on the works and hit houses opposite the
Clarence Hotel on Talbot Road.
On one such raid a German bomber was hit by a Hurricane plane, possibly
from RAF Calveley, and flew in over Newton very low and on fire. It
came down in the fields behind St. Mary’sChurch and the crew luckily
escaped. My Husband Colin Ridgway and his friends (all very young),
were playing football nearby and saw the Germans run into the wood near
The boys ran home to get their toy guns in order to capture the airmen and
on the way to the wood they were met by a friend Tommy Sowter who had been
queuing at the bread shop for his Mother’s ration and had a loaf of bread in a
bag, he joined them and they went into the wood only to be confronted by the
Germans! Toy guns not being a deterent, bravery soon evaporated and the
boys fled not before a German pinched Tommy’s loaf off him.
In the flight the boys ran into Constable Jackson and the Newton “Dads
Army” who were on their way to search for the downed Airmen. The
boys told them where the Germans were and ran back home and safety.
The airmen were soon apprehended and marched off down Talbot Road. A
large crowd of Mothers had assembled near the Post office and as the column
passed by much hissing and cat calling took place; by the women against the
Germans as their husbands were away fighting in the war. However,
one mother was more concerned in giving her errant son Tommy a “good hiding” for
letting the Germans steal their loaf. Nothing for Tea
Also Roger V Chapman is quite correct the ground did shake when the
V2 Rocket passed over; and there wasn’t much left of the farm it hit
Not so Happy Days !! "
Many Thanks for sending this in to us, Jacqueline and Colin !
Here is a great photo and description from Trish... The children look like they are having a lot of fun !!
I have come across this photo,and dad had written on the back "June 3rd 1953 Street Party" Although the party was not actually held in the street, but at the Union Street Church schoolroom. I can actuallyremember this photo being taken, I am on the 2nd row, 2nd from the left Patricia Garbett with my friend Jennifer Booth (Booths Taxi's) Jenny is looking round at the big lads stood at the back, she did have two older brothers John & Geoffrey though not sure they are there! My younger brother John is just in front of me. The streets included in the party were Brooks Ave, Coronation Ave, Auburn Ave & King George Rd Hyde (where Jenny & I lived).
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List of people I can remember on photo:- Back row lads standing, I can only recall Richard Green on the right. 3rd row from left:- ?, ?, Rhona, Michael Green ( it helps that hes dressed just like his brother!)?, Philip, Brian Swann, Michael Barber, ?, ?, 2nd row:- Jenny Booth, me, Patricia Garbett ?, ?, Stuart Bowers, Granville Bradbury( Granville lived next door to us on King George Rd and let us have his old Beano & Dandy comics) lady unknown, Janet & Ian Carter. Front row:- my brother John Garbett, Jill Barber, can't remember the rest at the moment!
I have just been catching up on recent
postings and came across the one about the closure of the Unity Inn in Hyde.
That establishment holds countless
memories for my wife, Wynne, and I as it was Wynne’s mother, Jennie Cooper, who
took over the license in 1960. We had just returned from Singapore where I had
been serving with the RAF to be given the news of the move. Jennie had been the
extremely successful licensee of the Grapes Hotel in Gee Cross for several years
but family circumstances had forced her to move on. Stationed at RAF Waddington
in Lincolnshire, some of our leaves were spent at the Unity, which became
somewhat cramped as we now had our two children, Duncan and Debbie with us.
We left the RAF in 1966 and settled initially
in Denton and as the children grew older and attended school Wynne began to
work part-time for her mother, which was the start of an extremely successful
During this era pubs offered very little
in the way of food – meat pies, crisps and nuts were about all that was on
offer. Jenny was a very astute landlady and on Monday evenings, when the pub
was quiet, she would put free food on the bar. It was simple fare – a bowl of cut-up
tripe, simple sandwiches, potato pie, or black peas and cowheel, but it brought
in the punters! Some of the ‘regulars’, who worked locally, suggested that if
such food was availablethey would be
only too glad to partake of it along with their lunchtime pint and so, a whole
new episode in the life of the Unity began.
Wynne was, and still is an excellent
cook and began serving simple, freshly prepared food at lunchtimes. Everything
she served was cooked from fresh produce including all the roasts and, as the
menu increased, so did the lunchtime clientele, which now included many local
businessmen, solicitors and doctors alongside the engineering workers from
Adamson’s and the like. The kitchen at the Unity was tiny and ill-equipped and
how she managed to produce such outstanding food, all of it to order, I will
never know. Eventually, the pub was heaving at lunchtimes and, although there
was no evening catering, many of the customers made The Unity their favourite evening
‘watering hole’. It also became very popular with the members of the local
amateur dramatic societies who used it as their base when there was a
production at the Festival Theatre. Over the following years, The Unity enjoyed
considerable success which, undoubtedly, was in great part due to Wynne’s
efforts, ability and dedication.
Jennie retired in 1988 when The Unity
was taken over by Bill McDermott for whom Wynne carried on working. The
character of the pub changed considerably under the stewardship of Bill and his
partner Alma. Out went the organ, which had been played by Charlie Perrin on
most evenings and which made the pub more attractive to older customers but
lunchtimes continued as before.
The photograph of Jennie and Wynne in
the bar of the Unity may remind some of your readers of whom I have been
Thank you so much for sending in your great memories, Ken.
This is the cover of a book I bought last Thursday, written by Lee Brown and published by Amberley Publishing of Stroud, Gloucestershire. The three earlier books of archive photographs of Hyde in the Local History Series which I have were also published in Stroud, but by two different publishing firms. The latest book is different to the earlier ones in that the author has not confined himself to archive photographs but has used his own camera to show current views as a comparison. I bought my copy of the book from KBz News in the Mall, but it's also available at Bill Harrison's on Market Street and no doubt at other newsagents too. I've only had a quick look at it so far, but I can recommend it to anyone with an interest in old Hyde.
Below are some memories of Roger Chadwick who very kindly sent them in to the blog. I hope you enjoy reading them as much as we did !!
MEMORIES OF GROWING
UP IN HYDE: 1939 –
Born in May 1939, I
grew up at 247 Mottram Road.
Formerly the servants quarters of the adjacent property then known as
“The Hollies”, it was a large and interesting house for a child
– with cellars and an attic, the back room replete with six “servants”
bells only one of which was in use being the front door bell which would clank
and swing every time it was “pulled” from the front door! The
kitchen was situate down two huge steps and had a black leaded grate and
a hot fire! There was a washhouse, a coal house down the yard and a pleasant
garden overlooking Gee’s Brook and the allotments sloping up the hill to
a view of the old Godley Vicarage, Godley School and the tower of St John
Baptist poking through the houses. We had a ginnel in a tunnel from the back
door to the front pavement and the iron railings had not yet been taken down
for the war effort. Just over the garden wall you could see the crenellated “castle”
now called Brookbank Folly and three enormous trees. Brookbank House then
belonged to Dr Grau who had a surgery in one of the front rooms of the
house. He and his family could often be seen pottering around his huge
Early memories of
life at “247” was an earth tremor in 1944 , which shook the house
for a moment: the distant glow of Manchester on fire during the blitz and the
terrifying noise of a V1/2 Flying Bomb over the house as we hastened down to
the cellar for safety. With all the fields and woods around, that bomb fatefully
exploded on the farm buildings only a mile to the east of our house and very
near to the The New Inn at Matley.
SHMD trams hurtled
past our house across the cobbles and every fifteen minutes, the local “Joint
Board” and North Western buses bound for Mottram and Glossop. This was
the then infamously busy A57 trunk road with endless processions of traffic and
the tar boiler was perpetually on duty with a man pouring liquid pitch between
the setts and throwing to us little boys small globules of the stuff to sniff!!
Towards the end of
the war a convoy passed through and stopped on our road. Soldiers got off the
vehicles and lay across the pavements waiting for the order to move. Some
of the women came out with beans on toast for the men, regardless of their own
shortages. We cycled up and down our tricycles talking to them. The
noise, smell and smoke of the diesel coming from the tanks was a memory for
The view from
“247” across Mottram
Road at that time was of the land belonging to the
Ashbrook family. They lived in the end terrace house and at the end of the garden
adjoining was their large shop which opened and closed a few times during my
childhood. The shop afforded some shelter from the rain while waiting at
our Glen Wood bus stop for buses into Hyde. By the side of the shop
was Green Lane,
from where, by way of the back of Ashbrooke’s garage, we could collect
frog spawn from the water from the side of the bomb craters in the field above.
I was allowed
across this road if I used common sense and being an only child looking for
things to do, would often, with permission, saunter up Green Lane towards the
railway bridge and Dove Holes Farm. The land was rough, boggy in parts,
with reed beds, cotton grass and May flowers in the spring. Lying in the grass and
looking up to the blue skies, I could often hear skylarks.
marked the end of the town and the start of the country and I loved it.
Werneth Low seemed a long way away and would be an adventure later on.
The Bridge that leads from Green Lane.
The Iron Bridge
Dad was an unknown
figure for he had been at war from my birth until I was nearly 6. He was “demobbed”
in 1945 and came home in a smart suit. The war was over. A new
chapter was opening.
Today we have a couple of photos that were sent in to us by Dave Hamilton.
Many Thanks, Dave :)
Werneth Low 1990's
The Hare and Hounds1990's In the foreground you can see the brown roof of the Louvolite boxing club that stood behind Hyde Baths on Union Street, in the middle is the James North Douglas Street Building seen from Nelson Street side and behind that to the right is the back of the main James North (Slack Mills) building as it would have appeared from Queen Street..
If anyone else has any photos they would like to share please send them to us at firstname.lastname@example.org with a brief description, date and your name (if wanted). Many thanks !!
I wonder if anyone can help the person below with his query on an Otto Monsted book ?As we have posted before ...
"Otto Monsted was a Dane went into partnership with local man John
Broomer, operating a margarine factory at Godley, (in an old hat
factory) nearHyde. Broomer sold his share of the business shortly after but is
credited for having established the first margarine works in Britain".
Otto Monsteds Margarine Factory in Godley.
"Denmark, A brief survey"
Dear sirs: One of the several books that were left to me by my
father-in-law, Edgar Jepsen, is a booklet (title above) published under the
auspices of the Otto Monsted Foundation, Copenhagen, Denmark. Printed by
Egmont H. Petersen, by Appointment Printers to H.M. the King of Denmark.
Drawings are by A. Sikker Hansen.
I would appreciate any information you might be
able to give me re this booklet. For instance – it has no publish date and no
My late sister Patricia Ingham (nee Holt) used to work in
Middletons Record and television shop. If you wanted any records whether it be
jazz, pop, classical, or whatever, Pat would order it for you. This
was in the days before cds, mp3, downloads etc, the first ones were 78’s then
they went to 45’s and LP’s, Pat had all the record catalogues and would order
anything from them, many of the musicians in the area would order from
The BBC did not play many records other than Family Favourites on a
Sunday and we had to rely on Radio Luxenbourg to hear the top twenty hits,
usually by Frankie Laine, Johnnie Ray, Guy Mitchell, Doris Day etc. We all had
wind up gramophones to play these 78’s. Later electric record
players came out which played the newer types of records. Middletons
was a meeting place for all and Pat would play all the hits for us. Middletons
also sold pianos and musical instruments and Pat would play the piano to test
When television came out, one of our friends Grenville
Godley was the television engineer and installer. Those days are a far cry from
the Music of Today. Our favourites was the Jazz and to go on 42nd Street
in New York was magic. Frank Sinatra was a favourite too,and of
course Tony Bennett who we saw near Carnage Hall NY. Hope the oldies in Hyde
Below is an advert for the old supermarket on Clarendon Street showing the range of goods and services that were available circa 1976.
When I was young I used to love going in there with my Mum and Nan on a Saturday afternoon and buying chocolate biscuits which were all sold loose by the pound . As I got older I liked to peruse Hubbles record shop on the first floor. My Mum used to spend a lot of time on the haberdashery stall at the top of the stairs which always left me free to roam the entire shop floor with my sister. I never went in the Bingo area though - that was out of bounds. Happy days !!
An aerial photo showing the old supermarket ( just above the middle of the shot) Thanks to John Hopwood for the photo :)
Park, which opened in 1904, was originally the grounds of Newton Lodge,
home of Col. CJ Ashton who paid to build St Stephen's Church, Bennett
Street. It was given to the town by his daughters, following his death.
The lodge was demolished in 1937. Two years later it was replaced by
Bayley Hall which was funded by Sir John Bayley.
Below are some lovely memories from Jacqueline
"Hi, I was looking on the blog and reading about the green cabins on Werneth
Low, I remember going up to the cabins when I was a little girl with my
Father John Holt and Mother Margaret Holt also my Grandmother Margaret Holt(nee
Winterbotham) and my father’s Auntie Elsie Denerley(nee Winterbotham). We had
picnics there with strawberries and we used to go up to Windy Harbour Farm for
milk and cream, Dad would go to the river and fish".
Hydes Tea Rooms Windy Harbour.
lived in Bank Street at the tripe dressing business and we used to go and visit,
there were big stone vats with tripe in,also they kept chickens at the
back. When I was 15 I worked at Fletcher Miller’s in the office and
later it became Castrol, it was a good place to work and I still keep in touch
with people I worked with.
Saturdays were good as we would go and
watch them making Godley Rock in the market Hall,also there was a house in
Godley where you could buy it ".
"The Ritz was a haven for romance and
we loved to go to the pictures, but when we were younger we used to go to the
Hippodrome on Saturday morning this would give the mothers a break and we would
buy sweets from the shop next door. Does anyone remember the shop lower
down from the Hippodrome ,where the bus station is now, it used to have great
blocks of salt at the front door".
Hyde Park Bandstand1960's
"Sunday after church services lots of people
used to gather in Hyde Park and listen to the Band and then a visit to
Meschias. Happy Days".
Thanks to Steve Hill & Elsie D for the photos and, of Course, Jacqueline Ridgway for her memories. :)
The following email was sent to us by Geoff & Merrilyn Reeves from Queensland, Australia. ....
"In the course of Examining out family history, we often came across the Area known as Werneth Low and my wife remembers her grandmother speaking fondly of it as she was growing up in Tasmania.
my wife’s side of the family, it is well established that her
grandmother Ethel Maud Widdowson and Joshua Hadfield moved from Hyde to
Launceston Tasmania Australia
Phyllis Hadfield (her mother) came with them as a 3 year old, about 1912
Merrilyn’s grand father Joshua Hadfield married Ethel Maud Widdowson in August 4th 1907 the Ceremony that took place at St Pauls Church Werneth.
tried to find the church back when we visited in 2000 but failed, so
adjourned to the magnificent old pub at the top of the hill with the
great view and gave up.!
The question we have is: the address provided on the marriage certificate where they lived is Low Top Farm Werneth
do not know why but we think this farm property, if that is what it is,
was owned by a Thomas Widdowson, who may be Ethel Maud’s Father
Can any one assist in providing information about either the Farm or the two family’s
Much appreciated for any assistance".
Map showing Low Top Farm 1875
Map from 1910
Aerial view of Low Top Farm circa 1970's
Modern map showing Low Top Farm
Map showing the site of St Pauls Gee Cross 1870's St Pauls became Holy Trinity Church after part of the township of Werneth was
transferred to the district of Gee Cross. Is this the church you mean ? See links below for more information.
The following memories were sent to us by Jacqueline Ridgway .
"My Husband Colin and I were born in Hyde just before world war
2. We lived in Newton for many years before we moved to Gee Cross
when we married and then later moved to Lichfield. My Great
Grandfather was Amos Winterbotham who was the Mayor of Hyde in 1931 when the
famous Ox-roasting took place you can see the photo of that in the History of
Hyde book by Thos. Middleton he was with Lord Derby. Amos had a
Tripe dressing business in Hyde with one of the Green cabins on Hyde Market and
as a young girl I used to go and help out My grandmother Margaret selling tripe.
We look at the Hyde Blog everyday and we remember the Unity Inn having a drink
there after the pictures. My Grandfather Albert Holt had a butchers
shop on market street and his brother Fred was also involved see the book of
Hyde by Barbara Sole. My Husband’s Uncle Sam Ridgway was a good
bowler and won many trophies for his bowling he was known by many in Hyde also
for playing the concertina."
Sadly, another iconic Hyde pub has recently bitten the dust.
The Unity was one of those fabulous old fashioned pubs that had a great atmosphere and wonderful food. We always used to visit there after we had been to the cinema or the Theatre Royal and usually once a week for a pub lunch with dear friends..
A sad loss indeed.
A piece in Paul Taylors book "A history of the pubs of Hyde and District" states that the Unity didn't get its full licence until 1962 and for many years was nicknamed "The little boys pub". It dated back to 1869 and probably got the sign of the Unity around 1880.
Before closure circa 2009
As it looks now.
The second and third photos were sent in by Phil Shawdale. Much appreciated, Phil :)
might be interested in this short promotional video featuring some of
the work carried out by 'Friends of Pole Bank' We are a fledgling group
and any new members who are willing to pick up a brush, spade or
perhaps do some litter picking will be welcome. We usually meet the
first Sunday every month as a minimum.
the solid support of Councillor Philip Fitzpatrick behind the Group, he
has obtained funding for us and organised renovation of pathways
into the woods and restoration of the damaged stone bridge also within
the woodland. Of course in these times where services are having to be
curtailed funding has its limits and so we are constantly looking at new
ways to raise money as there are many projects that could be carried
out at Pole Bank.
The pond itself is one of the
main breeding grounds for amphibians in the area however since it was
dredged in early 2010 there has been a marked drop in the water level
due to some leakage. We managed to locate this leak a month or so ago
and thanks to repairs carried out by Tameside Engineers we are hopeful
that the water level should now increase
(For any closet Cliff Richard fans the music on this one should get at least one foot tapping!)
Thanks so much to all concernedfor making Pole Bank a lovely place to visitand, of course, to Dave for the video and information. :)
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