I received an email this week asking for a bit o help in finding the age of a row of stone terraces on Lumn Road, over to Clifford
"Hello, I live in an old stone terrace houses on Lumn Road and the junction of what was Queen Street Hyde. Still standing in my back yard is the old outside loo, it's no longer functional but would make a great restoration project at some point. My question is would anybody know the approximate age of these properties? I tried to find out myself but to no avail".
Modern Map
The terrace now backs on to Glover Road
Hopefully we might be able to help get some idea of the age of the houses as well.
The above map is from 1841, the terrace are there then, I've highlighted them in yellow, Lumn Road was then called Back Lane. A lot of the land around there was owned by Edward Hyde Clarke, there's no details on the houses as to date or ownership.. the land behind the reservoir was known as Lady Heys.
Map from 1910
I had to write back to Clifford asking for a picture or two of the outside lav, I'm sure a few out there will have tales to tell of them.
Noticed on one map where Hyde's ground is it says Owen Fields,As opposed to Ewen Fields,why the change name?
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I'm not sure if it helps but I have a 1871 map which names the cottages as "SION ROW"
ReplyDeleteLoo reminds me of the toilets at Greenfield school, they were absolutely disgusting.
ReplyDeletewe also lived in that block of houses the number was 154 0r 153 it also had a toilet out in the back yard with no bathroom we had a tin bath in front of the fire also there used to be loads of rats from the reservoir behind our house
ReplyDeleteHello Clifford no idea how old the cottages are but as a 15 year old apprentice plumber my first job straight out of school was converting all the toilets on your row from the old tippler toilets to the then luxurius flushing toilets I worked for Greenhalghs and one of the partners Horace lived in one of the cottages, that took place in 1963 and I was payed the princely sum of two pounds for a 40 hour week yes one shilling an hour or 5 pence to you young un's what joy
ReplyDeleteI would think that the bricked in hole means it originally was an earth closet. The nightsoil man would come along and dig it all out through the hole.
ReplyDeleteThere was a time when it was a relatively valuable commodity for spreading as fertiliser or just used locally on allotments.
Covering with dry sifted soil was supposed to be a very efficient way of dealing with human waste that was not smelly when operated well.
on researching my family history my great great grandfather lived at 24 back lane on the 1941 and 1951 census.although he was a clogger the rest of the family were cotton workers. might no 24 be in this row of cottages.
ReplyDeleteI am part of the Greenhalgh's family mentioned above - Horace still lives in the double terrace in this row of cottages. I will ask him what information he has :)
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