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Recently in our emails was a request for information concerning Samuel Oldham, one time Landlord of The White Gates public house.
Over to Andrea:
I came across your blog today and I thought you might be interested in this photo. It is my grandfather, Samuel Oldham, standing in front of the White Gates Inn. He was the licensee or victualler at the time. I'm not sure when the photo was taken and this scanned version is a little difficult to see details but I have always loved this photo
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My grandmother told me The White Gates was in the family for several generations until it was eventually sold. My father lived above the pub when he was a boy. I have just started doing a genealogical search of my father's family and that is how I came across your blog. Maybe someone reading your blog will recognize him or his name. my grandmother's name is Hannah Chapel. She was born and raised in Hyde as well. Born in 1900. I know that both my grandparents had many relatives in Hyde. Maybe there are still some living there. I hope to visit there some day. I live in Dallas, Texas.
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I remember Audrey Oldham who lived at the White Gates on the corner of Mill Lane and Manchester Road. Audrey and I went through infant and primary school together always in the same class. She had two sisters I think .. Irene and Annice. I remember Audrey very well because we are exactly the same age, we shared the same birthday-3rd October, 1943. In fact, while writing this I have a class photo from around 1954, Audrey is sat on the front row extreme right, in gym slip, white blouse and tie, with short black hair. Always wondered what happened to her and the rest of the children. I know Ralph Wilson died in a road accident in Canada, and George Potts committed suicide.
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ReplyDeleteFollow up: If Miss Oldham in Dallas would be kind enough to get in touch with me, I'll do what I can to assist her in her research.
Contact can be arranged if both parties are in agreement. Email's can of course be sent to us here at the blog for forwarding.
ReplyDeleteSpent many a Friday night playing dominos in the tap room of the White Gates in the late sixties and Sam Oldham was still the landlord at that time.His three daughters used to help behind the bar...great memories
ReplyDeleteIt would be interesting to see the photograph referred to by 'Anonymous' because I think that I was probably in the same class.
ReplyDeleteI know an Irene who once told me she lived at the white gates pub. She is still very much alive and well. Unfortunately I only know her married name. I can only assume itst the same Irene that is the sister of Audrey (see above comment)
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ReplyDeleteI think I can be of help to you here as I know Irene,Audrey and Annice and all 3 lovely ladies are very much alive and very well...Irene is in fact married to my dad... I was alerted to this blog by a friend of mine as she had noticed you post. So I have spoken today with Irene, Audrey and Annice and made them aware you are looking for family information. They are aware there is a family connection to America, so contact would be welcomed if you would like to forward details of how to make contact, I will gladly pass them on for you... :)
Bill, I can certainly assure you that you are not on the school photograph. Pauline Hulme, Bill Proctor, Frank Oldham, Maurice Oldham, George Potts, Eric Dodd, Colin Binns, Harold Wagstaff Barry Jackson, Trevor Hulme Donald Tuff,Billy Maybe, David Biddle, Jimmy Saville, Maureen Arrowsmith, Trevor Souter, Alan Rawlinson, Raymond Ferris, Jeff Stafford, Colin Haycock, Margaret Bremner, Andrea Wilson, Joan Swindells, Valerie Charles, Irene Winston, Betty Rook, Audrey Oldham, John Moss,Frank Woolley, Ralph Wilson, and Terence Pickles.
ReplyDeleteIf anonymous who knows Irene's married name could let Tom have it to pass on to me, it will be very much appreciated. I am at present in touch with Andrea in Dallas helping with her family tree.
Ralph was a good friend and I was sad when I heard about his death in Canada.
Anonymous - well maybe I was in the year above then, but I certainly remember most of the names you have listed. I was a friend of Ralph as well. He lived on Mill Lane and I was deeply shocked when I heard about his accident in Canada.
ReplyDeleteSomething that cropped up today concerning passing details and email addresses, I would always ask you use the blogs email in the first instances hydonian@gmail.com and I will act as go between by asking if your email addresses should be shared. If you put you own email addresses of the blog it could lead to unwanted contact or pestering spam like emails.
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ReplyDeleteI would just like to thank the landlord of the White Gates for allowing my to walk through his premises on a busy Saturday afternoon to take a number of pictures of the inside of the pub. These have now been forwarded to the relatives of the Oldham family in Dallas.
The pub is a living museum, very friendly with a great atmosphere,it is one of the last remaining links with Hyde's past which should never be lost. Get down there and walk back in time.
How's this for a distant connection to the White Gates? My husband's 2xgt grandmother's sister Betsey Lowe married Samuel Oldham's ancestor Alexander Ashton Oldham in 1856!
ReplyDeleteI have a lot of black and white photos of the White Gates, Sam was my uncle, and I saw a lot of him until his death in the 70,s. I think I have a photo of Hannah Audrey Annice and I are together next weekend, so we will search scan and upload some pictures.
ReplyDeleteMy Grandma was an Oldham before she was married and I am sure she was a cousin of the Oldhams from the white Gates
ReplyDeleteCan anyone with old pictures of the WHITE GATES please send them in so i CAN UPDATE THIS POST.
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Tom.
My grandfather, Percy Ridings was a regular in the tap room. There is a picture of him pulling the pints as the oldest regular when it changed to a CAMRA pub. His son in laws Eric Hope and Harold Kelly frequently played dominoes in that back room.
ReplyDeleteMy grandfather Percy Ridings was a regular in the tap room at the White Gates. He was one of the longest regulars when the pub became a real ale pub and is in one of the pictures pulling the pints. He was accompanied by his two son in laws Harol Kelly and Eric Hope regularly playing dominoes in the tap room.
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