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Monday, 17 January 2011

Allotments, And Homing Pigeons

These allotments are now long gone, they were at the bottom of Fawley Avenue, I don't know how many of them were there ...I suppose around 10 - 15 in this part. 

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Chicken Coop


Some of my earliest memory's are from the times I spent down here. I recall feeding the chickens.. and being a bit scared of the Cockerel. I heard tales of the fox that would sneak in at night and kill the hens. I know that more than one was caught and disposed of.  Dad showed some of the Hens at local 'Fur and Feather' shows which were once held in Hyde over the Ambulance Station. My sister would show rabbits.  Of course growing up we were never short of eggs, chicken and rabbit, all of which made it to our table. Dad never ate chicken, mum told me years after he never would having reared them from eggs.

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Veg Patch


We always had fresh veg...  mum would ask dad to bring home what she needed and when dad had finished flying the pigeons.. which he did every day.... he would come home with the goods.


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My dad checking his roses

I only recently found out that the allotment was my granddads, before it was my dads, one of my cousins was bought up by my grandparents. She recalls going to the allotment for fresh veg before she went to school. She told me that when dad came back from the London Blitz, he was a nervous wreck and it was to this allotment he turned and converlesced.

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When the war was on my dad was a fireman, he was at Coventry and Manchester when they were blitzed, and my cousin recalls seeing him off when he was sent to London. Fire fighters from all over were sent to help out when the London blitz was on. We were never told of his time as a fireman, dad never talked about it at all... we now know that while in London a schools air-raid shelters were hit... Dad was one of the men sent in to clear up. My cousins recalls him coming home ill, what ever happened at that time changed him from being 'out going' to a very quiet man... he spoke to my granddad about what went on.. but no one else. 

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Show Chrysanthemums
   
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Cut Flowers And Tomatoes

Dad spent most of his spare time on the allotment, he would set off to work at Redferns Rubber Works... nip down there to let the pigeons out at dinner time. He'd then call back there after work, picked up any veg mum wanted,  or any flowers if they were wanted. He'd then come home for his tea.... before going back down to lock up the chickens and pigeons. I would sometimes go down with him at this time. I remember the chaps down there all smoked, all laughed and they always seemed to be helping each other with jobs, and of course sharing their veg with each other. 


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Jack Warburton And Dad

I'm sure that these allotments were much more than a place to grow veg and keep the odd animals and birds. It seemed a way of life, a place of refuge for the men, a place of relaxation, apart for the weekends when it became a very different place indeed. Most of the chaps belonged to either Hyde Homing Society, or Gee Cross Homing Society, which meant Fridays was a busy time, the best and fittest pigeons would have been fed a bit less,  birds would be packed in baskets and taken to the Society headquarters, ring numbers would be wrote down, subs, and race fees paid. The Racing Pigeons would then be sent off either by train, or lorry to be released at a certain time. Each bird being given a rubber ring which when it flew back home would quickly be taken off it, put in a thimble sized container which fitted into a special clock. These clocks would have all been checked and set by each Homing Society taking place in the race.  Races were won and lost at how quick you could land your bird, and get the ring inside the clock. Many a race was lost by the appearance of a cat or hawk in the area... the pigeon might have made good time... but would refuse to land if all was not right. Kids were normally not allowed down there on Racing Day.


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Pigeon Cote


Pigeon Racing had many followers at that time... and I know it meant the world to some. My dad was Secretary and Treasurer of both local clubs and some time of other. His knowledge and skill with the birds was always sought after. He would work out the speed the birds reached by time and distance... keep records of each birds achievements and it was only the best birds that were bred from. Females would have their eggs removed to be hatched and reared by a 'proved' mother. Dad would then keep only what he thought would be the best for racing and sell on the others. His 'seconds' were much sought after. 
When Fawley Farm Allotments were Compulsory Purchased  for housing it was the end of an era for many... some did not manage to find other allotments... or restriction were in place for what you could and could not keep. Dad was one of the lucky ones... he joined up with two of his friends Stefan Zeman, and George Higgingbottom... the veg and flowers were lost... but these 3 formed a partnership which bred and raced many winners.  


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Prize Winning Pigeon

Dad's new allotment was not far away at all... it was right under the shadow of St Georges Church on Church Brow.... It was pigeon only now... gone the chickens and veg... it was all systems go on the new pigeon lofts. Dad lived for his pigeons, spent a large part of his life around them, it is fitting that  this was the last picture took of him... He died not long after this picture was taken in 1970 aged 58.

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Church Brow

Sunday, 16 January 2011

Charlotte House.

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Charlotte House , Albert Road . circa 2009

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Charlotte House , Albert Road. 23rd December 2010
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What a sad site to see - such a beautiful old house going up in flames. Luckily it was empty of residents at the time , although the owners were in the property and were rescued safely.
It looks doubtful whether it will be rebuilt to its former glory again.

Saturday, 15 January 2011

Postcards from Werneth Low.

Here we have two postcards  sent in by John T. Such beautiful countryside.
Thanks for sharing them with us , John :)

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Mottram Old Road


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Mottram Old Road, photograph by Dave Williams

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Harrop Edge
Unsure of the exact dates but obviously before the Hattersley overspill estate was built and that should put the date at the latest,  the late 1950's/early 1960's.

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Harrop Edge, photograph by Dave Williams

Friday, 14 January 2011

The old bus station -

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Interesting shot of the old bus station pre M67 motorway! I remember the old bus shelters being very draughty on a winters day! No seats or doors - makes todays bus station look like comparative luxury ! Notice the Astoria Bingo Hall peeping over the shelter to the right hand side.

Thursday, 13 January 2011

Hamnett Street /St Pauls connection

Whilst doing some research into St Pauls Church origins I discovered that it was started in an upstairs room in Solomon Wagstaffe’s Ironworks on Hamnett Street in 1848. This whetted my appetite to find out where on Hamnett Street the firm was.

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I am relatively sure , given the help of tithe maps and street maps of that time, that the room was above what is now the Abbey Bank building. The date on the side is relative to when St Pauls started and also to where buildings were situated in 1848.
If anyone has any information that would help to (dis) prove this research then we would be happy to show it!

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Situation of buildings on Hamnett Street in the tithe maps of 1836-51
 (Hamnett Street is sometimes spelt Hamnet Street on old publications.)

Wednesday, 12 January 2011

The Beginnings of St Pauls Church Part 1

The following information was taken from "The History of the Parish of St Paul's Catholic Church Hyde" by B. Marshall MA: BA (theol);MIEE
The full account can be found here and a fabulous , informative read it is, too.

http://www.marshallfamily.net/fam/dadsbook.pdf



In June 1848, a place of Catholic Worship was established in Hyde by Father John Quealy, in a room above Solomon Wagstaffe’s Ironworks in Hamnett St. Father Quealy was the assistant priest at St Mary’s Dukinfield and he celebrated the first Mass in Hyde before 200 people.

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The first full-time parish priest appointed to the new St Paul’s parish was Father John Reah from Mulberry St. As there was no living accommodation at the Mission in Hamnett St, Hyde, he lived at Furnace St, Dukinfield.

The group of Catholic families who went to St Paul’s were almost entirely
Irish and lived in the most undesirable parts of Hyde town and Newton. They were usually desperately poor, and often illiterate. The Hamnett St Chapel must have provided a great haven for the homesick immigrants even though it was probably sparsely furnished for it gave them a sense of belonging.
In 1852, Mr Ashton, owner of the Newton Banks Print Works gave Father John Reah a plot of land off Newton St in Newton Moor, to build a Catholic church, which was a testament to Father Reah’s hard work and dedication within the Parish.. Unfortunately he was replaced as the priest before any money was raised for the actual building of the church.

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Tuesday, 11 January 2011

Cinema Adverts



I remember adverts such as these from my younger days.... ;o) the one that sticks in my mind was the one for Lowry's nightclub... it showed people saying they went there at the weekend... it was the place to be seen. What made me laugh was that it was filmed in London..... and as it was being filmed those red London Buses   would go by.  The other one was the No 6 cigarettes adverts.. "People are changing to No 6"..  I'm sure others must have memories of these adverts.

Thanks to "caretakerste" for this great video!
Much Appreciated.

Monday, 10 January 2011

Elephants in Hyde

Elephants in Hyde

Not much Known about this shot. Think it was probably something to do with a exhibition/event that was held at Newton Bank Printworks in the 1960's whose theme was Africa..
The Elephants are walking past Hepworths which was on the corner of Clarendon Street and Market Place. Strawberry Gardens fruit shop is there now.

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Any information on this gratefully received :)

Sunday, 9 January 2011

Class 3A Flowery Field Secondary School.(October 1946)

Class 3A taken in October 1946 at Flowery Field Secondary School

Back Row. Jean Shaylor. Marjory Prest. Ethel Burdikin. Bertha Cooper. Marlene Hunt. Jean Thackwell. Dorothy Cash. Joan Bowden. Joan Yates.

Middle Row. Maureen Harrison.Barbara Wood. Joyce Rhodes.Shirley Whittle.Joan Whyatt. Brenda Pennor. Doreen Pollitt. Florence Hodgekiss. Margaret Groom. Margaret Sykes. June Gregory. Headmaster  R.C.Williams.

Front Row. Joyce Birchall. Mary Cooper. Margaret Roberts. Inez Barlow Mary Walker. Miss Agnes Horne Joyce Higgins. Doreen Heys. Renee Barber. Alwyn Hurst. Alice Taylor.

Just before Christmas we were contacted by Roy and Jean Barnett from Australia who have been enjoying reading the blog... and sent this message and photo.  
I am in contact with one of your contributors here in Australia (Henry Smith) who enabled me to find your Blog. As a native of Hyde with many happy memories it is a pleasure to add to your wonderful collection of photos and information to be preserved and in safe keeping to the beneficial  my home town. Well Done!        Jean Barnett(nee Thackwell)
Roy and Jean also sent another couple of pictures and we will show them again soon.  Thank you both.




Floodmark

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I couldn't help but notice something on this photo of the Floodmark that is on the site of Gibraltar Mill, that Dave very kindly took for us recently.

If you look closely to the right hand side of the floodmark it looks like a figure of a woman sitting there spinning - A ghost of Gibraltar Mill perhaps? Spinning long after the mill ceased to be?

What do you think? Can anyone else see her?

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Dave has zoomed in here to try to highlight her.

Saturday, 8 January 2011

Reminiscences in the life of Joshua Bradley part 2

Joshua Bradley work origins.

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Joshua Bradley learned his trade in the small premises that were at the rear of the Farm House where he lived on Pudding Lane. This was run by Joseph Walker who kept the business going after his Brother Daniel had left to run the day school near Newton Bank Print Works. All work was done by hand - The machinery consisted of a small spinning jenny and a few frames which were used for winding the manufactured thread into bobbins and balls which were then ready for sale.
Joshua started his learning as a pin winder and ball maker at the early age of seven years old. He started working the first week for no wages but was so quick at mastering the work that before weekend had arrived his name was placed on the wages sheet. His first wage was fourpence which ,whilst was a small amount , filled him with pride as he took it home to his mother.

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After six months Joshua moved on from the Pudding Lane Manufacturers to the Ashton Brothers Cotton Mill in Newton. This required him to walk three miles each way per day which was no mean feat for a child of eight years old.
There were no restrictions in those days regulating the hours of Cotton Mills so Joshua would commence work at 5:30am and finish at 8pm. After mastering his new job his mother decided that he should take lodgings in Newton so he would be nearer to his work. His wages were now 4s 6d per week.

Friday, 7 January 2011

Hyde Park Gates

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Park Road Entrance

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Lodge Lane entrance

Thursday, 6 January 2011

Throstle Bank Mill

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Thomas Ashton Jnr earned particular note for his conduct during the Cotton Famine (1861-1865), he kept his mills running despite the high cost of cotton.  He had his workers build the above mill at Throstle Bank, thus keeping his workers in employment. The mill was also constructed of bricks made by his workforce, at a brick yard of Old Road... somewhere across from where The White Hart was. 

I used to work here in the late 70s, first in the card room and then in the lift taking work from one floor to the next.... it wasn't a bad job but had it's ups and downs.... ha!

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This above bridge was known as Bowler's Bridge.... I'd be interested to know the origins of that. The bridge was the one replaced in the mid 1970s when the M67 was built. I remember this part of the canal being full of shuttles and bobbins... I wish now I'd picked a few up and kept them. 

Wednesday, 5 January 2011

Zion Congregational Church

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Zion Congregational Church

I love the woman with the shawl on the corner of Peel Street. I also like the fancy ironwork that used to adorn the front wall of the church - this was ,I assume , removed and collected for the war effort.
I wonder what the horse and cart was delivering?

Photo is thought to be circa 1900.

Tuesday, 4 January 2011

The Weir on the River Tame.


The Weir on the River Tame.

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Constructed by John Sidebottom to help power Gibraltar Mill which was built in 1794). The spare ground on the right of the picture was formerly occupied by the mill which was demolished in the 1960's. Note the flood marker on the right.

The Sidebottoms were perhaps Hyde's second industrial family after the Ashtons.
They also owned Hyde and Haughton collieries and Kingston Mill.

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The Weir

The Great local flood was in 1799. During it's height the River Tame increased by several yards. At Hyde Corn Mill the Millers were busy for many days and nights using long poles to try to divert the trees and logs that had been uprooted by the sheer mass of water and washed downstream. They had to do this to prevent them doing serious damage to the Mill itself. Crops were ruined and damage was done to a wide area and caused inconvenience for months after due to many local bridges being destroyed.

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Here's the Flood Mark in detail.

Thanks to John Hopwood for the photo - very much appreciated :)


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The two pictures above are from Dave Williams our resident photographer... Dave went on to say

These are the photos I took today of the marker by the weir. I notice from the photo on page 33 of the booklet 'Hyde Cotton Mills' that it doesn't seem to be the same marker. The one in the booklet looks much bigger, there's a 'th' after 'Aug 17' and the line indicating the water level is underneath the date. Were there two markers, was it redone at some stage, or is the photo in the booklet a fake? Another thought-provoking post!
Once again thanks for the pictures and input Dave... I seem to recall the marker being rebuilt.... and the fencing added... I can't be 100% on this but I have an idea it was knocked down by so called 'joy riders'. I'm sure a car was dumped in the river around here.

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Here's the Flood Mark on the old mill itself... and on this one it is as Dave said... there's a 'th' after Aug 17. As I look at this picture now I remember the noise of the weir.. it must have rebounded from the mill... it was very loud. 

Monday, 3 January 2011

Looking up Stockport Road

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Looking up Stockport Road from outside the Ring o Bells pub.

Notice the Zion Church in the background on the left. Hidden away ,just lower, is the Clarkes Arms (just visible by the sign above the shops)! The Bakers Shop eventually became Worthingtons Hardware Shop!
Looks like it was a busy community judging by all the shops . There are only 3 there now - A chip shop ,a barbers shop and a sweetshop - the rest are houses now!

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A fantastic comparison shot here from Dave Williams..

Saturday, 1 January 2011

Reminiscences in the life of Joshua Bradley part 1

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Taken from "Reminiscences in the life of Joshua Bradley" by James Bradley