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Showing posts with label Hyde Market. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hyde Market. Show all posts

Tuesday, 3 October 2017

Hyde Market in the 20's & 30's

I am well aware we have had a few posts on Hyde Market, but I am sure that another one will not go amiss at the time when the latest version is nearing completion.

This little story I obtained from the same source as the Kingston post, but unfortunately there is no author's name attached. It may well be Elsie Hawkins again but I cannot be certain. It describes the market from around the 1920's to the 1930's.

                                          The Market At Hyde

Hyde market was held on a Saturday years ago, just the one day and then in the 1930's we also had a Friday market day.

Through the week there was fruit and vegetable stalls which were permanent fixtures, a sort of cabin affair and the people that kept them were known to all, they never seemed to change.

At the corner, diagonally across from Woolworths was Riley's. They were wholesalers as well as retail greengrocers. They would sell off any fruit that would not keep over the weekend very cheaply, when it was closing time on Saturday night. Mostly it was large bunches of bananas or soft fruit in summer.

Round the corner to the left was Sinnett's and they took pride in selling the best greengrocery. To the right of Rileys was Hollands, who also had a shop on Mottram Road. There were others of course making about six altogether. There was a tripe stall here too.

The market itself was a great attraction. One could buy almost anything there and people came from all the towns around. It was bright and full of interest. 

The stalls were lit with lamps which the traders hired from a shop in Hamnett St, which faced the market.

A lot of traders would auction their goods and they had a patter which would keep people around their stalls.

Mrs Crossley the curtain lady had a shop facing the market. She sold curtains, coat and dress material of a very high standard. She would talk away for hours on her stall while selling her wares and there were lots of people around her stall just listening to her.

Goodwins had a pottery stall and if trade was slack they would suddenly drop a pile of pots to draw attention to themselves. Mr Goodwin had a stick which he used to thump a wooden box as he explained he was not going to charge this or even that but some ridiculously low figure. One would buy a twenty piece tea-set in the 1930's for three and eleven pence in old money (20p in new).
We would all listen to Harry Gilbert who sold watches and clocks, much cheaper than anyone could buy in the shops. They were reliable watches too, and many a Hyde person still has a Harry Gilbert watch. He later opened a jewellery shop next to the Bank of Scotland in Market St, which is now a tailors (Greenwoods).

There was quite a number of drapery stalls selling both men's and women's wear. I remember seeing "long johns" and "combinations" hanging up and of course socks and stockings, a pair of artificial silk stocking could be bought for ninepence (4p) before the war.

The flower stalls were lovely and colourful , very often they were just part of a greengrocery stall.

In the 1930's they started an innovation. They had a large zinc bath and washed the dirt off the celery before it was sold. I used to feel sorry for them on cold winter days. At the other end of the market was a pie and coffee stall 
Barlow's swings and Cookes roundabouts were also here as well. There was also a black pea saloon, but this finished sometime in the late 20's.
In 1927 an indoor market was built. It has since been demolished to make way for the new shopping precinct. I much preferred the old one to the new one. It was light and airy and had  all food stalls, mostly butchers, though Mr Lowe had his grocery stall in there. His son joined Mr Booth's son, the butcher to open the supermarket in Clarendon St.

Nightingales made Godley rock and home made sweets in the market. It was always fascinating to watch them cooking the sweets and pulling the rock on a hook on the side of the stall.
Near this building was a football net and men and boys would pay a few pennies to kick the ball into the net.


The street at the side of the market was Helen Street. If one approached it from Reynold St/Norbury St there was a very nice hotel called the Norfolk Arms. It was pulled down to make way for the new market as was all the property there. There was Meals pawnshop and then the 'Hyde cafe'.

A street ran at right angles here , then came to Ashworths butchers, then to a sweet shop, Cloughs confectioners, Britannic Assurance Co and above these shops Mr Searle had his photographic business. A lot of our old photographs of Hyde were taken by him. next we came to the shop that is still a shoe shop but it was originally Jacksons whose slogan was a Cheshire Cat. They also sold hats:-

"Jackets, hats and caps are fine, Three and six and four and nine".


Facing here in the premises occupied now by Woolworths was Brownsons the tailors. This is a stone building - rather nice. We always made sure we saw Brownsons big window at Christmas. They did a scene that occupied the whole of the window. I well remember Red Riding Hood visiting granny in a cotton wool snow scene. One January about 1926 we had terrible gales and the window was blown in. It was immediately boarded up and a large notice proclaimed "Our windows may not be able to withstand the elements, but our overcoats certainly will".
At the corner of the market near the junction of Market Place and Market Street, opposite Greenfield St, was the Finger Post, a large mastlike village pole with sign boards indicating the directions of the various roads.
Now , on that spot in my day stood a drinking fountain which was used as a meeting place. We would meet our friends from other parts of the town there. It was removed to the park some forty or fifty years ago. It would be nice if we could restore it & put it back on the market place.

The 1920's was the time when women shortened their skirts and cut their hair short so it was no surprise to hear of Dr Marie Stopes disciples speaking on the market of birth control and selling her controversial book "Married Love".

The market itself was much nicer in the old days before the "precinct" was built. We all congregated there on Whit Friday when we had walked in our own parishes. Our Mayor and Mayoress would be on the balcony of the Town Hall and all the banners would be propped up against the railings while we sang our old well loved traditional whitsuntide hymns.

On Sunday evenings the Labour party or Socialists would hold an open air meeting with the speaker standing on a low loader cart. They stopped when they managed to get a labour government together in the 1920's -- previously the candidates had either been Liberal or Conservatives, but this changed after the first world war.











Post was originally posted July 2012

This was one of the many posts where the pictures are not showing up...  it is a long process but we are getting there.. in the meantime bare with us and all picture WILL be replaced eventually 

Saturday, 7 September 2013

Hyde Civic Square 'What's On'

Hyde Market 

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Harry Rutherford's 1948 Northern Saturday

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Today there's a collection  for the Harvest Festival Food Bank

If you are in Hyde today check it out, and don't forget to support a few of our local businesses..  like these below.  I-Deal Gifts and Let's Talk Tripe.

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I-Deal Gifts
&
Let's Talk Tripe

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 Help Support Your Local Shops

Thursday, 1 August 2013

Hyde Drinking Fountain

A photo of the drinking fountain that used to stand on Hyde Market and now resides in Hyde Park

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Anyone know when it was moved to the park ?

Tuesday, 16 July 2013

Marching Together.

I haven't got any information on this photo other than it appears to be of a Whit Walk in the late 1960's - early 1970's.
It shows a band marching past Hyde Town Hall but I have no idea who the band is.

Any info gratefully received.

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Monday, 15 July 2013

Hyde Town Hall


Another view of Hyde Town Hall.
Unsure of the date on this one but think it is the turn of the 1900's.




I see the fountain which now stands in Hyde Park is on there







Thursday, 23 May 2013

Local Notice !

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Hi all,
You will see from the attached that I am hoping to arrange a table top sale, on the Hyde Civic Square in late June.  The poster dose not say that there are a further 8 stales available to local groups, such as Morris dancers, etc, which will be free to the organisation, in exchange for a display or similar, which could be classed as entertainment for visitors.   Any one interested in any of the 48 stalls should contact me as soon as possible.   Could you assist by letting others know?
 
Kind Regards,
 
Neil Openshaw,
Cashbox Credit Union,
Hyde Town Team,
Hyde Business Forum.

Wednesday, 22 May 2013

Shopping in the 1970's

The following is from a Tameside booklet from the mid 1970's

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Hyde Market in the 1970's

Tuesday, 14 May 2013

Love your local Market !

Its almost here - Love Your Local Market 2013....What a great celebration of markets we are going to witness over the fortnight May 15th - 29th. 652 markets in total signed up to take part this year!






Free market pitches are being offered to new traders as part of a package of special events and offers to celebrate Tameside markets.
Love Your Local Market (LYLM) fortnight, which runs from 15 May, aims to showcase all that markets have to offer as well as give new small businesses a helping hand in starting up trade.




















Many thanks to Hyde Market for the photos and information.

Hyde Market Facebook Site

Friday, 19 April 2013

MEMORIES OF GROWING UP IN HYDE Part 6


1939 – 1955 by Roger Chadwick

Between 1945 and 1948, the bus fare from Glen Wood to Hyde Market was 1d both for adults and children. It was regarded as a good value ticket but when your pocket money was between 3d and 6d, it was wiser to walk the three stops and save the money for pies! 

Readers will gather that food has and always will be important to me. I am fortunate to bear the same weight at 74 that I had at 18! Walking about makes you observant and I knew every part and parcel of that 10 minute amble!

   

 Mottram Road

Mottram Road was quite “elegant” even in those post war years with Victorian terraces, huge houses and rows of cottage style dwellings. John Oldham’s, Grocers, was just down the road and between the shop and the Bankfield Hotel were what we called “the dolls houses” as they looked so small and neat. Past Grange Road you came to Sober Row, so remembered because of the stone plaque in the middle terrace house bearing the words “Be sober, be industrious, be economical”. Then I might cross the road to avoid the temptations of Proctors Chip Shop, buy stamps at the sub post office and then hurry past the Co-op at the corner of Lumn Road with its crepe paper window decorations and ginger cat! After a passing the tram shed on Lewis Street and Smith’s The Butchers I would eye all the cars and take in the whiff of unburnt petrol at the garage before Ridling Lane and Clarendon Street.


Co-op on Lumn Road corner


There was a lovely fruit pie outlet just below the road that led to the Hyde Lads Club and The Ritz!

When I was about 7 or 8, Mum took me to meet Mrs Young at the National Savings Shop and to buy Savings Stamps. These bore the portrait of Prince Charles with blonde hair aged about 3! It was the start of saving money for the future. Round the corner was Lever’s, the Gents’ Hairdresser where I would deliberately attend for the short back and sides at the busiest time of the week so as to study the Dandy and Beano comics in detail. In those days, Mr Lever, chain smoking and coughing, would sterilise the shaving heads and briefly use the cut throat razor above the ears and below the hairline. That implement frightened me to death especially when being “stropped” for shaving the older gentlemen 

The Reform Club Building reminded me, like many more lads of my age, of the lady dentist from the school dental clinic on the first floor. “Keep still, this is going to hurt…what’s the red tie for… are you a communist?” She brooked no nonsense and was downright rude. Pleasanter moments were spent in Warburton’s Pork Butchers with the huge Kelvinator Fridges and blue tiled images of pigs on the walls, a scrupulously clean environment, smelling of butchers’ mace as the pork and pies were served out to the huge queues. Then perhaps across the road for a saunter round Woolworth’s. The manageress was usually found in one of those glass screened shoulder level offices and had a tremendous hooked nose which fascinated me. Not so the goods on offer as I always thought of them as too cheap and nasty and everything at a penny or a halfpenny short of a round number: I never cared for Woolworths but thousands did!






Woolworths, with Abbey National which was the site of the UCP cafe
The UCP( translated “United Cattle Products” for foreigners..) across Hamnett Street and the Shaw Hall bus stop was a favourite haunt for an “illicit” plate of faggots and peas or a savoury duck. It was always full and smelt wonderful. All those cubicles where people met to eat and chatter and meet friends and family. You would think I never got fed at home!


As I remember it, Hyde Market was held every Tuesday and Saturday. The square was packed jam full of stalls and people and buses were off-loading at every street corner. I am pleased to see that the elegant Tram Stops have been preserved and The Town Hall makes an excellent backdrop even now. What no longer seem to exist are Meschias and Levaggi’s Ice Cream Kiosks where I would squander pocket money, always leaving some for the horehound candy in the Market Hall. The smell of that candy filled the place. Summer months would see me rushing home with dripping bags of wimberries(bilberries) for deep plate pies with custard!   


Meschias Van on Hyde Market

Early teenage years would find me in Market Street gawping at the lovely new “rexine” record players at 15 guineas in Callers window – something I desperately wanted but was way beyond my income. No so the suet puddings, gravy and chips at Ibbotsons Café which were always wonderful for a growing lad’s appetite. Thence to Cooke Brothers for cheese off the slab and butter from the barrel and perhaps a swig of sarsaparilla or dandelion and burdock at the Herbalist’s fascinating premises. I never cared for liquorice sticks but loved pink “kalai”(is that how it is spelt?) that came in spills of paper where a wet finger would enable me to lick the glorious taste. When sweets came off ration I didn’t go mad for them. I still don’t!

These days, you can eat or drink anything you want and the huge choice doesn’t excite me at all. The times of shortages after the war made me really appreciate and enjoy absolutely anything that was on offer. Hyde could offer plenty enough even in those hard times. It was a wonderful place for me!

Thanks so much for your wonderful memories, Roger.
They are a delight to read.

Saturday, 23 March 2013

More Trams

Here are a couple of postcards showing the Trams at 
Hyde Market Place.

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Wednesday, 13 March 2013

Memories of a bygone era.

The following memories were sent to us by Jacqueline Ridgway


"My Husband Colin and I were born in Hyde just before world war 2. We lived in Newton for many years before we moved to Gee Cross when we married and then later moved to Lichfield. My Great Grandfather was Amos Winterbotham who was the Mayor of Hyde in 1931 when the famous Ox-roasting took place you can see the photo of that in the History of Hyde book by Thos. Middleton he was with Lord Derby. Amos had a Tripe dressing business in Hyde with one of the Green cabins on Hyde Market and as a young girl I used to go and help out My grandmother Margaret selling tripe. We look at the Hyde Blog everyday and we remember the Unity Inn having a drink there after the pictures. My Grandfather Albert Holt had a butchers shop on market street and his brother Fred was also involved see the book of Hyde by Barbara Sole. My Husband’s Uncle Sam Ridgway was a good bowler and won many trophies for his bowling he was known by many in Hyde also for playing the concertina."


The Ox-roast in 1931

Many Thanks for sharing with us, Jacqueline. 

Tuesday, 18 December 2012

Aeriel View of New Market Square 1968

Here is another aeriel view of the Market and the new development in 1968.
The HSBC Bank is still very recognisable from this photo but many of the old shops have gone, amongst them the shoe shops and the butchers shop that were opposite Woolworths.
 Look how many market stalls there were then compared with todays market ! This was maybe because the old market hall was demolished and the new one wasn't ready? Does anyone know?
The old Methodist Church that stood on Norfolk street can be seen top left of the photo.
Parking was available where the DHSS building now stands (bottom right).

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Thanks to John Hopwood for the great photo !!
Much appreciated. :)

Saturday, 28 July 2012

Tranquil spot.

 With all the upheavel with the market being redeveloped, I just thought I'd show this shot which shows the Cenotaph on Werneth Low overlooking all the mayhem !
Such a place of tranquility !

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As Tufty Club said, if you're not from Hyde you might have trouble spotting it, so I've zoomed in :)

Sunday, 22 July 2012

The Fountain on Hyde Market

As most Hydonian will be aware, the market is in the middle of a revamp.
Here is a photo showing how the market looked in the 1970's - complete with fountain, stone built seating and planters.
The Town Hall can be seen in the background.

I have very fond memories of this market.

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Many thanks to Martin Leigh for the photograph .
Much appreciated, Martin !! :)

Thursday, 1 March 2012

Hyde Market through the ages

 As Hyde Market is in the process of undergoing renewal I thought a few pictures of the market through the ages might remind us of how it has changed.

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In the 1920's. The Norfolk Arms pub is on the right hand side.

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Circa 1940's

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Typical 1950's shot.

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Early 1960's

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Two pictures from the 1970's

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1982

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The bus shelter in the 2000's

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A couple of shots of the redevelopment Feb 2012

Friday, 27 January 2012

Hyde Market And The Mall

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Here's three pictures Dave has come across of the market.They appear to have come from a newspaper or magazine but we don't know what date the photos were taken. Dave says if they were all taken at the same time the cars in the third photo it suggests that it was in the 1970s.
 Cheers Dave.. these are great.


Monday, 16 January 2012

Market Square

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Painting by Hyde Artist Harry Rutherford



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Dave Williams as come up trumps for us again... Here's a rare view on a postcard of the Market Square, complete with the stone seating, and the base of the fountain as well. We've been trying to get a picture of this since we started the blog and this is the best that as turned up so far...

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Now for the Future
Hyde Outdoor Market Redevelopment


Hyde is to get a new market and civic square as part of a £1.2 million project to improve the town centre and attract more traders and shoppers.
A well-attended public consultation meeting took place in July. Opinions were given by businesses, traders and residents, and Tameside Council has taken these on board as it finalises the scheme.

The proposed plans are now on public display in a variety of community venues including the outdoor and indoor markets, Clarendon Shopping Centre, Hyde Town Hall and Hyde Library.

Pending planning approval, works are due to start early next year and be completed by September. The works will be done in phases so that the market remains open throughout as will the indoor market, located within the Clarendon Shopping Centre.

In addition to the physical improvements, the Council is committed to supporting existing businesses in Hyde and to attracting new ones.



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Proposed Layout


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To see the plans in PDF Format clock below



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I wish the council and the Town all the very best in this venture and hope that shops and shoppers come back to Hyde in greater numbers than of late. Plan's such as this should be welcomed with open arms. What worries me is that as this venture is about to start the planning department have granted the change of use to three more shops as food takeaways in the last two weeks. Surly Hyde as more than it's share.... and Market Street is every bit as important as the Market Square.